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Celebrated histrion Dame Judi Dench has besides written respective books, including "And Furthermore," "Behind the Scenes," "Scenes From My Life," and "Shakespeare: The Man Who Pays the Rent," co-authored with person and chap histrion Brendan O'Hea.
In her latest book, "Is It Too Late to Make a Run For It?" (published by St. Martin's Press), Dench and O'Hea instrumentality with a postulation of conversations revisiting an bonzer vocation and a singular life.
Read the excerpt beneath – and don't miss Seth Doane's interrogation with Judi Dench and Brendan O'Hea connected "CBS Sunday Morning" November 8!
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Choosing a Part
Have you ever been successful a presumption to take which portion you're going to play?
Of people not. And it's thing I'll ne'er instrumentality for granted. Mikey utilized to say, 'Always behave arsenic if it's the past occupation you'll ever do.' I inactive transportation the fearfulness of not working. Or of ne'er being asked again. You can't conscionable expect to beryllium employed successful this concern erstwhile determination are truthful galore terrific actors acceptable to measurement in.
I erstwhile knew an histrion whose criteria for accepting a portion depended connected 3 questions: 'What's the billing? What's the money? What's the role?' In that order. I've besides known actors who've turned down jobs due to the fact that their quality didn't accidental the past enactment of the play.
That's ridiculous. You'd ne'er play Hamlet oregon Lady Macbeth. Was it Michael Caine who said helium judged a publication by its location, and if helium fancied going to the spot wherever it was being filmed, he'd judge the job? I cognize what helium means. That's 1 of the reasons wherefore I was truthful keen to bash Mrs. Brown: a period successful Scotland – bliss.
What are your ain criteria for choosing a part?
I'm not precise bully astatine it, truthful I thin to permission it to others. When Mikey was alive, helium would work immoderate scripts I'd been sent and I'd wholly spot his judgement.
I've ne'er enjoyed speechmaking scripts. I overmuch similar to beryllium told the communicative – ideally by the director. When I met Stephen Frears to speech astir the TV play Going Gently, we went for a locomotion astir Holland Park. It was lovely, being capable to rotation successful the unfastened aerial – nary pressure, nary expectations, thing calculated – conscionable listening to him archer maine the story.
But immoderate directors are much cunning – similar Howard Davies, who came to the location to speech astir Mother Courage and lone told maine the bully bits. He didn't archer maine that Mother Courage is successful each bloody country and doesn't unopen up. I lone recovered that retired aft the read-through. He besides didn't archer maine that she pulls a monolithic cart astir the signifier each evening portion her mute girl (played by Zoë Wanamaker successful our production) sits perched connected top, says nothing, and past steals each the reviews. [Laughs.]
Why bash you similar to beryllium told the story, alternatively than work a script?
Laziness, probably. Or possibly it's the kid successful me, the representation of being work to erstwhile I was young. But I besides deliberation that erstwhile a manager tells maine the communicative it allows maine to beryllium much nonsubjective and I tin ideate myself successful the audience, experiencing it for the archetypal time.
Is determination a portion of you that's besides assessing the director's knowing of the communicative and however they're readying to archer it?
Not consciously but, present you accidental it, yes, probably. You privation to marque definite you're successful harmless hands, don't you? That instinctive effect to a publication is truthful important (and captious to clasp connected to) due to the fact that erstwhile you've committed, and rehearsals person started, it's truthful casual to get mislaid successful the weeds of a part. Holding connected to that nonsubjective bird's-eye presumption provides a reminder of the wide story, and besides your spot successful that story. It's a spot similar being capable to notation the representation connected the beforehand of a jigsaw box.
Somebody erstwhile said, 'You tin marque a bully publication bad, but you tin ne'er marque a atrocious publication good.'
I deliberation that's true. That's wherefore it's important to beryllium alert to immoderate small niggles erstwhile a manager archetypal tells you the story, due to the fact that that's erstwhile you tin spot if something's awry. Ultimately, you request to inquire yourself: Is this communicative worthy telling, and volition it beryllium arresting capable to marque an assemblage beryllium and listen?
What's absorbing is you've not erstwhile talked astir the size of the role.
Because for me, it's the communicative that's important, and asking myself if I privation to beryllium portion of it. The different happening I similar to cognize is who I'm going to beryllium moving with. I had specified a bully clip being directed by John Madden connected Mrs. Brown that I wrote to him afterwards and said, 'If you person thing other up your sleeve – immoderate aged part, nevertheless small, adjacent if it means conscionable walking crossed the backmost of the changeable – fto maine know.' He wrote back, saying, 'Well, funnily enough, I person got a tiny portion which constitutes walking crossed the backmost of a shot,' and that's however I came to play Elizabeth I successful Shakespeare successful Love.
From "Is It Too Late to Make a Run For It?" by Judi Dench and Brendan O'Hea. Copyright © 2026 by the authors, and reprinted with support of St. Martin's Publishing Group.
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